jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Feb 27, 2023 23:14:48 GMT
Jeanne dies for another stupid reason.
I'll probably edit this at some point with genuine predictions, but it's probably waaaaaay too early to be anywhere in the vicinity of accurate.
I do hope they return to the Eyes of the World and the Umbra Witch/Lumen Sage storylines. I know they erased the Eyes of the World from existence in Bayonetta 2, but a Jeanne stan can dream. How much do you think they'll retcon or ignore Bayonetta 3? I still hope Demon Slave and Demon Masquerade are in, though with the caveat that it isn't REQUIRED constantly in order to progress. I know it's the debut title for those mechanics, so they had to spotlight them and feature gameplay around them, but hopefully it's tempered a bit in Bayonetta 4, and not utterly scrapped.
Your predictions for the 4th entry in the Bayonetta franchise?
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hera
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Post by hera on Feb 28, 2023 22:45:26 GMT
im shocked they 'killed' off both jeanne and bayo in bayonetta 3. the writers know no fear
on the storylines, i agree that they should return to the umbra Witch and lumen storylines. i mean multiverse plot this early in? that's usually reserved for stories that are already stretched far. they have all this base material to work on and they chose not to use it. why?
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jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Feb 28, 2023 23:59:16 GMT
The Umbra Witch and Lumen Sage storylines were endlessly fascinating too. I know a lot of people say that the stories in B1 and B2 weren't really that important or interesting, and never a strong point, but I genuinely disagree with that. I think the lore was intricate and fascinating, and then they just scrapped all of it for man-made green goo monsters and an antagonist with zero motivation. Just evil for the evulz. It's extremely disappointing.
I also hope that they make the demons speak Enochian again, I didn't care for their distorted English. Only valid exception is Baal Zebul, when she became human-esque.
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hera
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Post by hera on Mar 1, 2023 0:51:12 GMT
thank you for saying it. the art, lore, environment, everything is so beautiful in design!! it absolutely needs to be used again for bayo 4. the wonderful thing about bayo 3 is that they did expand more on demons by giving us masquerade. i am slightly worried that they might remove it in the next game in favor of a new gimmick, that seems to be a thing in games today.
also i just realized something. it wasn't just homunculi they added, but a whole ass fairy realm omg. do you think it will only be for 'cereza and the lost demon' or will it also be the major plot in bayo 4?
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jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Mar 1, 2023 19:43:34 GMT
I think they'll likely nix the fairy stuff for B4, or at least, I should hope so. I really don't want them to get rid of Demon Masquerade or Demon Slave, I just want them rebalanced. How funny would it be if they brought back Umbran Climax though? Just nixed DM and DS for UC, and bring them back for B5. If DM and DS go the way of UC, though, I wonder what the gimmick for B4 will be.
Still think they should explore Bayonetta's Lumen heritage and maybe learn some sage arts or something idk.
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hera
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Post by hera on Mar 1, 2023 20:50:15 GMT
i just know lumen bayonetta is fighting for her life out there bc there's no way the sages would be nice to her since she still has umbran blood. plus it would be super interesting to see how we are going to see our favorite cast be introduced to this alternate bayonetta, (assuming jeanne is still an umbran witch).
balder would still go insane somehow
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jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Mar 2, 2023 2:04:34 GMT
Like, of all the concepts they didn't explore in the multiversal conceit of Bayonetta 3, Cereza being taken in as a Lumen Sage wasn't on the docket??? That's literally half of her heritage, why couldn't we see the ONE universe where the Lumen Sages raised her instead?
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hera
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Post by hera on Mar 2, 2023 3:52:44 GMT
LMAO they were so stupid for that. all their best forces came together to create miss viola
if they wont give me lumen bayo then im drawing her myself smh
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jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Mar 2, 2023 6:02:19 GMT
DO IT. We need a proper Lumen Bayonetta, and PG sure as fuck aren't gonna deliver.
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hera
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Post by hera on Mar 2, 2023 22:36:17 GMT
I shat out a couple designs but idk how to post pics 😭😭
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Post by jeanne on Mar 3, 2023 4:55:01 GMT
You better figure it out bc we need that shit.
(I haven't posted pics on a forum in forever either omfg.)
Maybe formatting options will show up if you quote my post? Or maybe copy/paste if you've got it on your computer?
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hera
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Post by hera on Mar 3, 2023 19:54:01 GMT
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Post by hera on Mar 3, 2023 19:57:37 GMT
You better figure it out bc we need that shit. (I haven't posted pics on a forum in forever either omfg.) Maybe formatting options will show up if you quote my post? Or maybe copy/paste if you've got it on your computer? girl i was struggling out here. anyways i finally figured it out, so far i only have a couple sketches but i keep scrapping. if you have any ideas for art pls tell me
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jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Mar 3, 2023 22:59:11 GMT
You better figure it out bc we need that shit. (I haven't posted pics on a forum in forever either omfg.) Maybe formatting options will show up if you quote my post? Or maybe copy/paste if you've got it on your computer? girl i was struggling out here. anyways i finally figured it out, so far i only have a couple sketches but i keep scrapping. if you have any ideas for art pls tell me I think her having black hair would still be good, but braided or accented by golden tassels might be really good? Really highlight that dark/light theme she's got going. I can't decide if she should have loose hair, but she's yet to do so, so maybe play around with that? I feel like the Lumen Sages might be more conservative than the Umbra Witches, given who they consort with contractually, but idk if Bayonetta would ever dress conservatively no matter her affiliation lol. I'm curious what you think a Lumen Sage Jeanne might look like too, especially if she has her B2 hairstyle 👀
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hera
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Post by hera on Mar 3, 2023 23:53:43 GMT
girl i was struggling out here. anyways i finally figured it out, so far i only have a couple sketches but i keep scrapping. if you have any ideas for art pls tell me I think her having black hair would still be good, but braided or accented by golden tassels might be really good? Really highlight that dark/light theme she's got going. I can't decide if she should have loose hair, but she's yet to do so, so maybe play around with that? I feel like the Lumen Sages might be more conservative than the Umbra Witches, given who they consort with contractually, but idk if Bayonetta would ever dress conservatively no matter her affiliation lol. I'm curious what you think a Lumen Sage Jeanne might look like too, especially if she has her B2 hairstyle 👀 that was my question too. i was looking through the bayo 1 art book to see what kind of outfits lumen (or people of vigrid) would wear, i dont think dresses would fit well if she was still using her guns. ill try again and share them soon!!
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